Those are from the Attendant Dept. and they are instructed to not lay a hand on any protesters. "If attacked, or assaulted, you have the right to defend yourselves."
James Jack
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JWs Demonstrating against the Demonstrators
by Listener inthe organization never ceases to amaze.you've got to see this video for yourself so i won't say much about it.
i wonder if this practice has been endorsed and sanctioned by the governing body and if we will see more of it in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuxbx1ktci.
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here i am
by notalone ini was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.
my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.
i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.
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James Jack
"Implied invitation revoked"
I remember that expression was discussed during the CO meeting with the Elders and how to deal with those that cause disruptions at the meetings.
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Disfellowshipping Question
by Elizabeth Thompson ini have been a baptized witness for about 30 years.
from the time i was a kid.
i've been the only one in my family who is baptized until 15 years later when my mother got baptized.
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James Jack
Had this very situation happen in our Hall.
A Sister married a DF brother and her Uncle (an Elder) said to her to say to the Elders that " I was engaged to him before thDFing".
We wrote the Branch about this and their was response was that "in Jehovah's eyes, an Engagement is the same as being Married". They even included the Account of Joseph was going to divorce Mary (they were only engaged at the moment) when she revealed that she was pregnant.
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They want to have a "shepherding call" with me, but here's the twist...
by Captain Schmideo2 ini got it before 8 in the morning on a work day, as a text message.
nothing beats a warm invitation for spiritual encouragement than a quick electronic message.. sheesh.....
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James Jack
They asked me a couple of weeks ago for a visit with the CO; "I said not at this time".
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JWR Alumni
by marlborobarbie inhey y'all.
i just wanted to officially make my debut on https://www.jehovahs-witness.com and introduce myself.
i'm an old jwrer, and it looks like i'll be dropping in on here now for cult updates and friendly conversation.. a little about myself:.
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MARLBORO BARBIE
Welcome. Isn't quite Divine that all of us are being brought together?
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Introduction from another JWR Refugee
by 2badsosad inyet another jwr refugee.
been active over there for a while now.
was quiet for the last couple months but just starting to 'reactive' myself again.
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James Jack
WOW!!!
Looking at your research material is amazing! Thanks for your hard work and your willingness to share it with us.
Oh, welcome to our site!
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Another traveler from JWR
by StarryNight9 inhi everybody, i'm starrynight from jwr.
that's it... .
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James Jack
Welcome and hope to read your story too!
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Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?
by OnTheWayOut ini don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
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James Jack
I had been ignoring this thread, until the CO meeting with the Elders and MS's.
He said "Everyone get out your Tablets. And those who do not have look on with your neighbor(5 out of 12 don't have a device). "
He told us to go to the WT Online Library, W13 p20, paragraph 17 point (3), he paused and said: This is why all of us should try to learn to use these devices because if forced to leave our homes, we can easily carry our devices and be able to receive information from the Faithful Slave from anywhere. Then he reads:
"At that time, the life-saving direction we receive from Jehovah's Organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive( he injects, like using our Tablets), whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."
The CO pauses again, and says "Brothers, SOMETHING VERY BIG IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN ON THE WORLD SCENE!
I said to myself, he we go again...
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How some Elders responded to Ray Franz DFing
by James Jack ini gave a several talks in gadsden alabama usa during the 90's.
got to eat and chat with several elders who were in the know such as : felix parnell, willie anderson, bobby rogers, earl parnell, theotis french, and rob dibble.
all said they struggled with the decision of his dfing.
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I gave a several talks in Gadsden Alabama USA during the 90's. Got to eat and chat with several elders who were in the know such as : Felix Parnell, Willie Anderson, Bobby Rogers, Earl Parnell, Theotis French, and Rob Dibble. All said they struggled with the decision of his DFing. "Ray Franz was a great person, but you can't set your own rules, and go against the Faithful Slave! As an Elder, you must be loyal to the Organization that Jehovah is using and not question the direction that the Faithful gives."
That is the collective thinking I got from these individuals. I never gave it much thought at the time because I was totally in, very active Elder and Regular Pioneer, totally consumed with towing the company line and I didn't want to hear anything negative about the Organization. Knowing what I know now, the conversation would have gone in a different direction.
One funny note I recall is a conversation with Annabel Anderson(Willie's wife). She told me about a Congregation picnic where Ray Franz attended and another publisher introduced her inactive husband who was wearing a beard. Annabel asked Ray privately what he thought about the man's beard, and Ray said :"I like it and see nothing wrong with!".
Annabel told me,"From that point on, I knew there was something wrong with him and it would be a matter of time before Jehovah will deal with him."
I wonder what she thinks now about beards from the 2016 Sept. WT?
Felix, Earl and Willie are dead now. I still see the others from time to time. Maybe I might get a chance to ask some better questions if given the opportunity.
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The Ray Franz Saga
by snugglebunny ini'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.
many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.
she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.
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I gave a several talks in Gadsden during the 90's. Got to eat and chat with several elders who were in the know such as : Felix Parnell, Willie Anderson, Bobby Rogers, Earl Parnell, Theotis French, Rob Dibble. All said they struggled with the decision of his DFing. "Ray Franz was a great person, but you can't set your own rules, and go against the Faithful Slave! As an Elder, you must be loyal to the Organization that Jehovah is using."
That is the collective thinking I got from these individuals. I never gave it much thought at the time because I was totally in, very active Elder and Regular Pioneer, totally consumed towing the company line and I didn't want to hear anything negative about the Organization. Knowing what I know now, the conversation would have gone in a different direction.
One funny note I recall is a conversation with Annabel Anderson(Willie's wife). She told me about a Congregation picnic where Ray Franz attended and another publisher introduced her inactive husband who was wearing a beard. Annabel asked Ray privately what he thought about the man's beard, and Ray said :"I like it and see nothing wrong with!".
Annabel said,"From that point on, I knew there was something wrong with him and it would be a matter of time before Jehovah will deal with him." I wonder what she thinks now about beards from the 2016 Sept. WT?
Felix, Earl and Willie are dead now. I still see the others from time to time. Maybe I might get a chance to ask some better questions if given the opportunity.